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Evil bonuses lead students astray
30 April 2008COMMENTS
Most of my friends went into teaching, charity, consultancy, PR, journalism etc, turned off banking by the perception of long hours et al. 4 years on, I certainly made the right choice, my quality of life is by far superior to my peers. My children will go to £24k/yr boarding schools, theirs will be sent to state grammars, giving them a significant disadvantage for networking. Read all comments »Mervyn King has weighed in on the bonus debate. The guvnor says big payouts have encouraged too many talented people to squander their lives in banking when they could have been doing something more constructive instead.
King made his comments to the Treasury Select Committee.
According to the Telegraph, King says young people look at City compensation packages and think they “dominate almost any other type of career ... It's not a very attractive situation that such a high proportion of our talented young people naturally look at the City and think it is the only place to work in. It shouldn't be. It should be one of the places, but not the only one.”
Talented yoof confirm Merv’s fears. One Cambridge student confesses that he might think of doing a medical PhD or going into the voluntary sector were it not for the fact that he’s leaving university with a £15k overdraft and needs the cash.
“During my gap year I worked at Pizza Hut and earned £200 pounds a week. As a summer intern in an investment bank I’ll be earning £700 pounds a week. There’s no comparison,” he says.
“Put bluntly, yes, people do go into investment banking for the money,” confirms Gordon Chesterman, head of the Cambridge University Careers Service. “But we do work hard to promote a wide variety of other careers.”
Bonuses may not need to be reformed to put students off – mass redundancies should be a more effective deterrent.
However, they don’t seem to have had an impact yet. Martin Birchall, director of High Fliers Research, a company which monitors top students’ career aspirations, says a record number of students want to go into investment banking this year: “Despite all the problems in the City, it's still as desirable as ever.”
Are you overpaid? Should bonuses be reformed? Have your say below.
COMMENTS
M&A, Investment Banking / M & A, Thu 01 May 08
I think Henry has exagerated on the numbers...
Add your comment »Henry, FX & Money Markets, Thu 01 May 08
"as teaching and charity, what contentment must they feel from knowing that they make a difference to people's lives everyday"
Ha! You would think. They utterly despise their jobs, say how they have to deal with ungrateful brats on a daily basis, and how they wished they'd gone to the city but now it's too late to start as an analyst.
"In a world where so many find themselves living in desperate circumstance, why is it that young men such as he, feel the need to massage their egos by building great temples"
I am an ultra-competitive person, hence a good trader (who was promoted to Vice President 4 years after starting as a grad, age 26). The circumstances of lesser people mean absolutely nothing compared to my goals. Why on earth would I want to waste time helping other people when I can better myself? I'm not going to feel good about helping others when the opportunity cost is a 6-figure bonus (which will be 7 by the time I'm 28). There is no greater feeling than performing head and shoulders above your rivals / competition / peers.
Anonymous, Thu 01 May 08
"I think Henry has exagerated on the numbers..."
I've not exaggerated a single number. I've been making 6 figure bonuses since being a 2nd yr analyst (having made £54k in my 1st year) - pretty standard for a front-office trader at a top firm. My flat cost £1.2m (15% deposit). Nightclubs cost £20 entry. Eton and Westminster cost £24k/yr (and more when my kids will be there).
And you know what, I deserve every single penny of my hard-earned pay for being so hard-working to get into Cambridge, and work 80 hours a week there doing extracurricular activities and internships to get ahead, rather than someone leaving with a 2.1 and an empty CV thus not good enough to do anything except teaching or accountancy. Which is why I greatly dislike anyone who criticises my desire to be ahead of the pack with a real estate empire and 5* luxury.
Anonymous, Thu 01 May 08
"In a world where so many find themselves living in desperate circumstance, why is it that young men such as he, feel the need to massage their egos by building great temples to soothe their own insecurities"
You are a complete fool! Why on earth would Henry want to do anything different? Why on earth would you turn down a dream career to go build mud huts for Sudanese people which will last a month, or whatever? Incidentally, the tax Henry pays will go a very long way, and probably make more of a difference than some do-gooder charity worker. But the point is, not everyone cares about wanting to "make a difference" or whatever, why anyone would want to turn down being a slick smart City trader for something paying a tenth is beyond me and anyone I know.
As the other person said, happiness depends on RELATIVE wealth. If your friends are earning £40k, you will only feel good if you're earning more than them.
Cambridge Graduate, Thu 01 May 08
Gordon Chesterman 'we do work hard to promote a wide variety of other careers'.....in other words, if you don't want to go into Banking, there's the option of Management Consultancy or Law..
Add your comment »John LeBon, Derivatives, Thu 01 May 08
The only worry is why Henry works so hard,after early 30s in my experience it's a doddle in banking. The work is non-esistent & the hours are embarrassingly easy.It's only the first 5 years that are ''hard''. After that it really is just a hobby. Good luck to all. A few hundred grand a year should not entail hard work.
Add your comment »Your Mom, Research, Thu 01 May 08
Peter: It was recently proven that Civil Servants have the lowest job satisfaction in the UK. I also work in the not-for-profit. Helping others is not as rewarding as having the money to enjoy yourself.
Add your comment »Charlie - IB, Thu 01 May 08
Henry, I also graduated from Cambridge in 2004. This sentence makes me weep and makes you an idiot.
My children will go to £24k/yr boarding schools, theirs will be sent to state grammars, giving them a significant disadvantage for networking
If you want your 13 yr old child to be presenting a business card at birthday parties I suspect he or she will soon be demolishing your "property" whilst your wife entertains the gardener.
Please grow up.
Anonymous, HR & Recruitment, Thu 01 May 08
You sound really happy and not in the least conceited....
Add your comment »Henry, FX & Money Markets, Thu 01 May 08
Charlie, you know very well that's not what I'm talking about. It's about developing a network of friends and acquaintances who will all go very far in life, which will aid your social network at Oxbridge and the City. It is expensive, but unparallelled.
"also work in the not-for-profit. Helping others is not as rewarding as having the money to enjoy yourself." - 'NUFF SAID!!
ps. VOTE BORIS!!



