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Making the move to Mumbai

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These numbers work with local experience & local education. One needs to compete with grads from the Indian Institutes of Management for these positions. London experience doesn't usually carry much water in Mumbai.  Read all comments »

Wall Street and the Square Mile might be kicking investment bankers into the street, but India is taking them on by the team-load.

Sourabh Chattopadhyay, director of recruiters Options Group in Mumbai, says local players are competing for people with international banks: “Some international banks have lost key people in the last year and must bring in new talent to be competitive. Similarly, local players like Kotak, Enam and Edelweiss have been really building their investment banking platforms.”

UBS is looking to double its investment banking team in India; Citigroup has hired an Indian MD in preparation for an expansion; Merrill’s John Thain has said he wants to up the bank’s Indian operations; Goldman is launching new services; and even Dresdner is getting in on the act.

Hiring is aggressive, poaching is rife, and banks are lifting whole teams out of competitors, Chattopadhyay says.

Generous payouts are encouraging some Indian bankers, who might otherwise have worked in London or New York, to consider their options. Milan Sharma, a Masters in Finance student at London Business School and former assistant vice president in Axis Bank’s i-banking division, says he ideally wants to work in the City, but has already had a number of offers back in India.

“At a typical base of $100k, it’s not great money by Western standards, but the cost of living in Mumbai is considerably lower than in London,” he says.

Indian firms still opportunistically tap UK talent, but don’t expect to be treated like royalty, says Ronesh Puri, managing director of the New Delhi office of search firm Executive Access.

“Previously there was a dearth of good talent locally, and there was a premium paid for Western experience, but that’s no longer the case.”

M&A pay in top-tier Indian investment banks

Analyst (1st-3rd years) £20k-£32.5k (base), £25k-£40k (bonus)

Associate (1st-3rd years) £35k-£50k (base), £30k-£65k (bonus)

Vice president £62k (base), £100k-£138k (bonus)

Director £75k (base), £200k-£250k (bonus)

Managing director £100k (base), £300k-£400k (bonus)

Source: The Options Group (original figures in Indian rupees, converted at £1 = INR79.85)

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BR, Capital Markets,  Tue 06 May 08

These numbers work with local experience & local education. One needs to compete with grads from the Indian Institutes of Management for these positions. London experience doesn't usually carry much water in Mumbai.

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anonumus.--hyderabad, Asset Management,  Tue 06 May 08

i come from india, and work here as fund management analyst and my friends work for major firms in mumbai. Unfortunately these figures speak false, they have to unclude things rent,cort of living and etc which will be sky rocketting(dont forget pollution levels, burecrausy, corruption)with the experience you gain in Lodnon, one is better off to singapore,or even hongkong. its understood, with years of experience you gain here. its not a big deal to get that kind of salary in india. Regarding competing with local guys(language could be a problem as india has a lot of regional feeling and will remain forever)most of the local guys intern in sinpaore, other neighbouring countries and then start of as analyst. I am talking in general not particularly Investment banking.
PS: my opinions are my own

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alan, Hedge Funds,  Tue 06 May 08

there is no point making statements like london experience doesn't carry much weight in india. Why do so many indians come to Uk and USA for education?

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CheckedOutBom, Private Equity / Venture Capital,  Tue 06 May 08

I've interacted at senior levels with many finance cos in India and "anonumus" is correct - local work experience is vital. Maybe 5 years ago someone from London could go to an Indian institution at a similar level to what they had in London, but now the IBs are savvy when recruiting. Foreign work experience is very helpful, but local knowledge/contacts is even more important.

If one is willing to take a backstep for a year, build up local knowledge and combined with international work experience/education move on, that is a winning proposition - but who is willing to take that step back and risk? But, over a ten year period the likelihood is that more money (salary/bonus and investment opportunities) is to be made in India than most other financial centres.

And yes Bombay is very expensive. I calculated that my cost of living would go UP and quality of life would go DOWN (I did real calculations based on the lifestyle I lead now and would lead in Bom).

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Anonymous,  Tue 06 May 08

You are talking of a trend which was significant 3-4 years ago. The trend is reversing and there is a reduction of indians coming to UK and US to study. Hence, there is no significant advantage of work experience in the West. It might work against the candidate as employers in India are more demanding than their western counterparts.

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Ashley Patel, Accounting,  Tue 06 May 08

This good news who ewants to back home as senior pro

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Local AAAce, Trading,  Tue 06 May 08

Relevant skills for Banking jobs paying these numbers in Mumbai - evidence of local deals, local contacts, local tombstones, local networks, local languages, local education, local track record --> Why would someone in India hire redundant ABS bankers from London {Starbucks doesn't compete with local Indian coffee either, & most ppl pack lunches to work, so no sandwich making jobs }

Edu: Good schools in India {IIM, IISc, IIT} admit just about 200-300 per school .. with 100x applicants .. schools in the US/UK have courses sized to demand/ability to pay .. most education is local to a large extent, leading to local employment

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alan, Hedge Funds,  Wed 07 May 08

this must be good news. All the indians studying in UK should be expected to leave back for india now and not take up jobs in this country.

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steve, Hedge Funds,  Wed 07 May 08

we should expect to see more of a true mix at places like LBS which for some bizarre reason seem to be bursting at the seams with indian nationals only. I look forward to the days that LBS become truly international again rather than full of indian students

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steve, Hedge Funds,  Wed 07 May 08

sounds like india is a great place to be, in which case I would expect all indians to head back home. Nobody is asking you or forcing you to come to UK, please remember and certainly nobody here is asking you to stay either

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