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Making the move to Mumbai

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These numbers work with local experience & local education. One needs to compete with grads from the Indian Institutes of Management for these positions. London experience doesn't usually carry much water in Mumbai.  Read all comments »

Wall Street and the Square Mile might be kicking investment bankers into the street, but India is taking them on by the team-load.

Sourabh Chattopadhyay, director of recruiters Options Group in Mumbai, says local players are competing for people with international banks: “Some international banks have lost key people in the last year and must bring in new talent to be competitive. Similarly, local players like Kotak, Enam and Edelweiss have been really building their investment banking platforms.”

UBS is looking to double its investment banking team in India; Citigroup has hired an Indian MD in preparation for an expansion; Merrill’s John Thain has said he wants to up the bank’s Indian operations; Goldman is launching new services; and even Dresdner is getting in on the act.

Hiring is aggressive, poaching is rife, and banks are lifting whole teams out of competitors, Chattopadhyay says.

Generous payouts are encouraging some Indian bankers, who might otherwise have worked in London or New York, to consider their options. Milan Sharma, a Masters in Finance student at London Business School and former assistant vice president in Axis Bank’s i-banking division, says he ideally wants to work in the City, but has already had a number of offers back in India.

“At a typical base of $100k, it’s not great money by Western standards, but the cost of living in Mumbai is considerably lower than in London,” he says.

Indian firms still opportunistically tap UK talent, but don’t expect to be treated like royalty, says Ronesh Puri, managing director of the New Delhi office of search firm Executive Access.

“Previously there was a dearth of good talent locally, and there was a premium paid for Western experience, but that’s no longer the case.”

M&A pay in top-tier Indian investment banks

Analyst (1st-3rd years) £20k-£32.5k (base), £25k-£40k (bonus)

Associate (1st-3rd years) £35k-£50k (base), £30k-£65k (bonus)

Vice president £62k (base), £100k-£138k (bonus)

Director £75k (base), £200k-£250k (bonus)

Managing director £100k (base), £300k-£400k (bonus)

Source: The Options Group (original figures in Indian rupees, converted at £1 = INR79.85)

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STEVE, Hedge Funds,  Sun 11 May 08

Funny, I also studied at LBS and can assure you that brits were not the 5% of the bottom class. In fact the behaviour and demeanor of the indians there really made me think whether LBS had done its admissions process properly. You can along thinking you know a lot with your great accents and way of thinking, and its surprising you have such a poor respect for this country. As I said, if you think a crash is coming, then why are you here in the west? Better go home? Either stay here and respect this country, or go back home. Don't badmouth UK  and don't try and pretend that India is good for anything else other than outsourcing. Know your place in the world, especially the western world which you are here to apparently be a part of. I really do hope INSEAD, HBS AND LBS DO start reducing the number of indian students and make it a truly international class.

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Prasant, Research,  Mon 12 May 08

May be this is not the forum to ask a personal question,but since I am desperate for answer let me go ahead. I have been working as a scientist in nuclear physics, work involves quantitative analysis, mathematical modeling, have done monte-carlo simulation, written thousands of line of code in C and C++, used Perl for scripting, cvs for repositories, currently learning GUI developement using GTK , Tcl/TK and VB6. I have been trying to get a job in finance market, but dont know how to go about it in India. I worked for 2 yrs in US as a scientist, given interviews on C++, thats what they were requiring from me, but I dont know what I need to be considered for quantitative analyst job / research jon i finance modeling. I would appriciate if any one can guide.

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ajay, Derivatives,  Tue 13 May 08

I have moved here from NYC and let me tell you that the quality of life here sucks compared to the US or India. The people here are arrogant and ill-educated. They still living in the glory of yesteryears - not realizing that the glory days are over. Now it is the time for Indians/Chinese to rule the world.
True, we Indians should show respect to this country but at the same time, should not balk down from pointing deficiencies as well.
@steve- nobody is perfect but at least can try to listen to constructive criticism and act upon it.
Ajay

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steve, Hedge Funds,  Tue 13 May 08

@Ajay ---> if the quality of life doesn't compare to USA or to India, then why are you still here? Nobody is forcing you to stay here. Go back home, wherever that is, certainly not uk. You are one of the hypocrites or what we call "the enemy within" asians who show disrepect to our country but are amongst the most desperate to obtain our HSMP visas and the first in line to apply for british nationality.
What a bunch of weak minded hypocrites. maybe china will rule the world one day, but looking at how you think, India will never be able to do that.

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Steve, Hedge Funds,  Tue 13 May 08

An indian criticising UK (especially one who wants a job here rather than being a man and going back to your own country) is like a little fly pointing at a brand new Boeing 777 and saying I can fly faster than you can.
Indians rule the world? you guys can't even get jobs in your own country, forget about ruling the world

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ajay, Derivatives,  Tue 13 May 08

I am not here by choice. I was sent by my NYC team to fix problems created by some of smarty-people like you here.
If I had any inkling about the current state of this city then I would have turned down the request to come here on a three-months assignment. If get a chance, I would be the first person to take flight out of this place.
ajay

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Steve, Hedge Funds,  Wed 14 May 08

we will be more than happy when you leave our country.

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Martin, Hedge Funds,  Wed 14 May 08

Steve, we're waiting for you to join us back at work. Please stop staring at efinancialcareers now.

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Dynamo, Trading,  Wed 14 May 08

Steve, rather than descending into a xenophobic diatribe, know that India is UK's second largest investor. The British work permit regime is in no small measure responsible for the inward flight of talent. Yobs like you do not augur well for Britain's future.

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Charles Fotescue-Grantham, Equities,  Thu 15 May 08

Bring back the Empire !!

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